Comments on: Kineo: Like an iPad, but made for students http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/ Just another eSchool Media site Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:37:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: lnatwick989 http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1500 lnatwick989 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:49:28 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-1500 My campus has a proxy and the wi-fi requires a password. I was unable to change the setting in the Android system on a tablet I purchased in December, rendering it basically useless to teachers on this campus unless they wanted to take it home, set it up with apps that did not require an active internet connection and bring it back. On the other hand, I have used my iPad all over, changing the settings once-it remembers. he bigger issue for us is students wanting to use devices their parents provide. My campus has a proxy and the wi-fi requires a password. I was unable to change the setting in the Android system on a tablet I purchased in December, rendering it basically useless to teachers on this campus unless they wanted to take it home, set it up with apps that did not require an active internet connection and bring it back. On the other hand, I have used my iPad all over, changing the settings once-it remembers. he bigger issue for us is students wanting to use devices their parents provide.

]]> By: lnatwick989 http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3196 lnatwick989 Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:49:28 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-3196 My campus has a proxy and the wi-fi requires a password. I was unable to change the setting in the Android system on a tablet I purchased in December, rendering it basically useless to teachers on this campus unless they wanted to take it home, set it up with apps that did not require an active internet connection and bring it back. On the other hand, I have used my iPad all over, changing the settings once-it remembers. he bigger issue for us is students wanting to use devices their parents provide. My campus has a proxy and the wi-fi requires a password. I was unable to change the setting in the Android system on a tablet I purchased in December, rendering it basically useless to teachers on this campus unless they wanted to take it home, set it up with apps that did not require an active internet connection and bring it back. On the other hand, I have used my iPad all over, changing the settings once-it remembers. he bigger issue for us is students wanting to use devices their parents provide.

]]> By: Dennis Pierce http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1496 Dennis Pierce Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:17:36 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-1496 Katie, you raise some great points. When I used the phrase "like an iPad" in the headline, I meant conceptually, not in terms of user experience. A key challenge of writing about technology for education is how to make stories relevant for people with a very wide range of technological sophistication. I could have written "a tablet made for students," but that wouldn't have gotten the point across as well as referring to the iPad, which has become the de facto standard that people think of when they think of tablets. Android-based tablets certainly do provide a different user experience than the iPad, and we're working on a closer comparison of various tablets for publication this spring, hopefully just before ISTE. Regarding your point about students knowing the difference, does that justify an expenditure of $200 more per device? I don't have an answer to that question, just throwing it out for consideration. Katie, you raise some great points. When I used the phrase “like an iPad” in the headline, I meant conceptually, not in terms of user experience.

A key challenge of writing about technology for education is how to make stories relevant for people with a very wide range of technological sophistication. I could have written “a tablet made for students,” but that wouldn’t have gotten the point across as well as referring to the iPad, which has become the de facto standard that people think of when they think of tablets.

Android-based tablets certainly do provide a different user experience than the iPad, and we’re working on a closer comparison of various tablets for publication this spring, hopefully just before ISTE.

Regarding your point about students knowing the difference, does that justify an expenditure of $200 more per device? I don’t have an answer to that question, just throwing it out for consideration.

]]> By: Dennis Pierce http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3192 Dennis Pierce Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:17:36 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-3192 Katie, you raise some great points. When I used the phrase "like an iPad" in the headline, I meant conceptually, not in terms of user experience. A key challenge of writing about technology for education is how to make stories relevant for people with a very wide range of technological sophistication. I could have written "a tablet made for students," but that wouldn't have gotten the point across as well as referring to the iPad, which has become the de facto standard that people think of when they think of tablets. Android-based tablets certainly do provide a different user experience than the iPad, and we're working on a closer comparison of various tablets for publication this spring, hopefully just before ISTE. Regarding your point about students knowing the difference, does that justify an expenditure of $200 more per device? I don't have an answer to that question, just throwing it out for consideration. Katie, you raise some great points. When I used the phrase “like an iPad” in the headline, I meant conceptually, not in terms of user experience.

A key challenge of writing about technology for education is how to make stories relevant for people with a very wide range of technological sophistication. I could have written “a tablet made for students,” but that wouldn’t have gotten the point across as well as referring to the iPad, which has become the de facto standard that people think of when they think of tablets.

Android-based tablets certainly do provide a different user experience than the iPad, and we’re working on a closer comparison of various tablets for publication this spring, hopefully just before ISTE.

Regarding your point about students knowing the difference, does that justify an expenditure of $200 more per device? I don’t have an answer to that question, just throwing it out for consideration.

]]> By: katie.neville@loudoun.k12.va.us http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1493 katie.neville@loudoun.k12.va.us Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:49:43 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-1493 My guess is that it is NOT very much "like" an iPad. I have tried several high end Android based phones and could not believe how poorly they compare to my iPhone. My guess is the Android based tablets will not compare favorably with the iPad either. Kids in my school would definitely know the difference as many parents already own iPads. My guess is that it is NOT very much “like” an iPad. I have tried several high end Android based phones and could not believe how poorly they compare to my iPhone.

My guess is the Android based tablets will not compare favorably with the iPad either. Kids in my school would definitely know the difference as many parents already own iPads.

]]> By: katie.neville@loudoun.k12.va.us http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3189 katie.neville@loudoun.k12.va.us Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:49:43 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-3189 My guess is that it is NOT very much "like" an iPad. I have tried several high end Android based phones and could not believe how poorly they compare to my iPhone. My guess is the Android based tablets will not compare favorably with the iPad either. Kids in my school would definitely know the difference as many parents already own iPads. My guess is that it is NOT very much “like” an iPad. I have tried several high end Android based phones and could not believe how poorly they compare to my iPhone.

My guess is the Android based tablets will not compare favorably with the iPad either. Kids in my school would definitely know the difference as many parents already own iPads.

]]> By: lschindl http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1486 lschindl Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:28:24 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-1486 While I'm generally excited about new technologies, I always have a concern about whether this has been developed with Universal Design for Learning principles in mind. I work with students who are blind, and worry that with Flash being utilized on the device, it will be inaccessible to my students. Many of the basic apps available on the iPad are accessible using the built-in screenreader, VoiceOver. While I’m generally excited about new technologies, I always have a concern about whether this has been developed with Universal Design for Learning principles in mind. I work with students who are blind, and worry that with Flash being utilized on the device, it will be inaccessible to my students. Many of the basic apps available on the iPad are accessible using the built-in screenreader, VoiceOver.

]]> By: lschindl http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3182 lschindl Sun, 06 Feb 2011 05:28:24 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-3182 While I'm generally excited about new technologies, I always have a concern about whether this has been developed with Universal Design for Learning principles in mind. I work with students who are blind, and worry that with Flash being utilized on the device, it will be inaccessible to my students. Many of the basic apps available on the iPad are accessible using the built-in screenreader, VoiceOver. While I’m generally excited about new technologies, I always have a concern about whether this has been developed with Universal Design for Learning principles in mind. I work with students who are blind, and worry that with Flash being utilized on the device, it will be inaccessible to my students. Many of the basic apps available on the iPad are accessible using the built-in screenreader, VoiceOver.

]]> By: Dennis Pierce http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-1485 Dennis Pierce Sat, 05 Feb 2011 04:42:23 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-1485 Thanks, everyone, for their comments. For those who question the idea of blocking access to certain applications, keep in mind that this device is intended for use by elementary and middle school students. If you're an administrator at a school serving kids in grades 1-8, you might find it useful to be able to control which apps on the tablet can be used by which groups of students--so the apps the third graders would have access to might be different than the ones the eighth graders could access, for instance. The ability to customize each user's experience based on age appropriateness is what we're talking about. Thanks, everyone, for their comments. For those who question the idea of blocking access to certain applications, keep in mind that this device is intended for use by elementary and middle school students. If you’re an administrator at a school serving kids in grades 1-8, you might find it useful to be able to control which apps on the tablet can be used by which groups of students–so the apps the third graders would have access to might be different than the ones the eighth graders could access, for instance. The ability to customize each user’s experience based on age appropriateness is what we’re talking about.

]]> By: Dennis Pierce http://www.eschoolnews.com/2011/02/04/kineo-like-an-ipad-but-made-for-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3181 Dennis Pierce Sat, 05 Feb 2011 04:42:23 +0000 http://www.eschoolnews.com/?p=56263#comment-3181 Thanks, everyone, for their comments. For those who question the idea of blocking access to certain applications, keep in mind that this device is intended for use by elementary and middle school students. If you're an administrator at a school serving kids in grades 1-8, you might find it useful to be able to control which apps on the tablet can be used by which groups of students--so the apps the third graders would have access to might be different than the ones the eighth graders could access, for instance. The ability to customize each user's experience based on age appropriateness is what we're talking about. Thanks, everyone, for their comments. For those who question the idea of blocking access to certain applications, keep in mind that this device is intended for use by elementary and middle school students. If you’re an administrator at a school serving kids in grades 1-8, you might find it useful to be able to control which apps on the tablet can be used by which groups of students–so the apps the third graders would have access to might be different than the ones the eighth graders could access, for instance. The ability to customize each user’s experience based on age appropriateness is what we’re talking about.

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