School safety experts question wisdom of allowing teachers to carry concealed firearms
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The decision by a rural, one-school Texas district to allow employees to carry concealed handguns has reopened a heated debate about the appropriateness of guns on school campuses--and it has some school safety experts scratching their heads.
In an effort to keep students safe, trustees of the Harrold Independent School District adopted a policy last October that allows some employees to carry a concealed handgun. The policy was first widely reported in August.
According to the policy, Harrold school employees must be licensed by the state to carry a gun, must undergo additional training in crisis management and hostile situations, and can only use ammunition that is designed to minimize ricochets.
The district, which consists of one K-12 school and about 100 students, is nearly 30 minutes from local police and is about 500 feet from a busy highway, making the school more vulnerable to violence, Thweatt said .
"We had to ask the question: What are we going to do if we have an active shooter in the building?" he said.
Thweatt said he and the trustees decided it was in students' best interest to provide an available line of defense if there is a shooter on school grounds--be it an outsider, a hostage situation, or even an armed student.
"We should be, as a society, ready to defend ourselves," he said.
Some school safety officials aren't convinced that letting teachers carry guns will keep students safe.
"There are many other steps schools can take to address school violence other than arming a teacher," said William Lassiter, director of communication for the North Carolina-based Center for the Prevention of School Violence. "[Harrold's] solution may or may not work."
He added that he was not against the idea of guns on school campuses, but that they should be in the hands of law enforcement officials. He said that if teachers carry guns, it could confuse the way students view them, mixing the two roles.
But Thweatt said his teachers have no problem balancing the two.
"There's this idea that professionals do professional jobs, but my teachers wear many hats and can be trained in just about anything," he said. "I have a wife and two younger kids in this school, [and] I trust the people here with the lives of my family."
Thweatt noted that school security has become a national issue, as it has become clear that shootings like the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado weren't isolated incidents.
"Over the last several years, the state has emphasized security," Thweatt said. Harrold installed a state-of-the-art magnetic entry system, lockdown buttons in administrative offices, and an extensive camera system, among other security measures, he said.
But the district felt the need to do more after the October 2006 Amish school shooting at the West Nickel Mines School in Pennsylvania.
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Teachers don't need the temptation
It is not to say that teachers cannot be trusted, but I have known teachers who were drunks, drug addicts, racists, one drug dealer, and a few who were just a sandwich short of a picnic. I have known principals who were several sandwiches short. I am sure that one racist teacher would have liked to shoot me when she thought that I was the one who had reported her for child abuse. I mean it had to be me, because I was white and white people, according to her, are treacherous,steal and tell your business. We had another one who was a drunk. Used the excuse that she had been raped. Another drunk who was an inappropriate toucher of both students and adults. Another one was dating my paraprofessional and she started provoking him and calling him names right there in our shared classroom. I think she would have shot him. The story was that he broke up with her. About 3 years later she went on sabbatical following a year with a student whose mother she probably would have liked to shoot. (I knew she was going to have trouble with that mother. Personally, I liked the mother, but this teacher was OFF, especially when she had PMS. And she was very lazy and did not keep her children clean--change their diapers and only taught when she was being observed. So I knew what was going to happen when Mrs. J. appeared unexpectedly and her child was wet or dirty.) And if one teacher ever shoots a student or a coworker, well it will be like the two or three who are caught doing child molestation---all teachers are potential murderers. No, teachers should not carry guns and should not be expected to provide security for the school in any formal and potentially dangerous way. Eyes and ears, yes. Executioners or the army, no. Just like they should not be required to function as catchers of illegal aliens, neither should come under the roof that is in many contracts, "other duties as required".
Posted By: twinkie1cat, 2008-09-19 12:40 AM
Right Solution
As a teacher, who served in the military, has handled weapons for most of my 58 years, and who is licensed to carry concealed weapons, I applaud this district's choice in this matter. Those of you who suggest hirig someone to do this job don't underdstand that hiring a full-time security officer will probably result in the loss of one of their other staff. Funding is tight; most schools do not have the money to hire an additional person just for security. They have used their funds hiring teachers for the students. With the closest police station over 30 minutes away, this school needs to be able to react in an emergency knowing that police support will, most likely, be late in arriving. I see nothing wrong with someone who is willing and properly trained stepping into this role. They are not becoming full-time security guards; they are in place to assist in protecting the students. Would it work at all schools - no. Is it necessary at all schools - no. Is it necessary and a good idea at this school - yes. I guarantee that anyone, student or outsider, thinking about going in and trying to raise havoc at a school would think twice if he/she knew that there were others in the school who were armed and who were willing to use deadly force to stop someone from hurting students.
Posted By: allenti, 2008-09-18 1:47 PM
Security vs. Safety
When will we ever learn that the two words--"safety" and "security" are NOT synonymous. There are a whole bunch of "self-credentialed" School Safety "experts" that try to pass themselves off as "School Security" experts. Safety deals with minimizing injury from due to an unintentional act or omission of saftey measures--like the warning label on almost everything you buy at a hardware store. "Security" deals with minimizing the loss of life. We have a "Department of Homeland Security"--not a "Department of Homeland Safety". We don't expect DHS to prevent or mitigate the consequences of standing on the top rung of a six foot ladder. School "safety" is in the hands of building inspectors, licensed electricians and plummers and fire marshalls. School "security" is in the hands of the District Superintendents and their Boards of Education who are legally elected by the residents of the School District. In Texas, the traning and background check is thourouly and completly scrutinized by State officials in Austin who perform an exhaustive background check and fingerprint analysis BEFORE you're able to even sign up for the 12 hour concealed handgun course. And that process takes 6-8 weeks. The "security" service personel hired for the Mall, get a 2 hr. course and wear a holstered firearms. We all have accepted that and felt more secure at the Mall for the past 20 years with no complaints. So, what's the difference? As more automated "biometrics" become available for schools (which will require a huge investment that small districts cannot afford), we'll see less need for concealed handguns on campuses--but until school districts can afford that--the next best (interim) solution is to "level the playing field" so that our campuses can (at the VERY least)be as SECURE as the shopping Mall. Dr. James Dunn III Longview, TX School Security and Homeland Security trainer and maybe have concealed handgun license
Posted By: jaydunn905, 2008-09-18 1:05 PM
Wrong Solution
The administration of this school (and district) seems to have missed the fact that the students are the ones who experience confusion, not the teachers. Asking teachers to step into a law enforcement role is bad enough, but expecting K-12 students to be able to differentiate between the two is ludicrous. Hire a school resource officer.
Posted By: jwatson, 2008-09-18 12:37 PM
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In response to jwatson - No one is asking the teachers to step into a "law enforcement role" in the situation. Their policy allows teachers to be protected. Not to teach safety of firearms, not to show off the pistol at given times, none of the above. I am a teacher and I do not carry a firearm - we have a large budget and two campus Resource Officers. The campus in question is 15 minutes from a police station and possibly 30 minutes away from a traveling officer at any given moment. The teachers and admin have a responsibility to protect the students in case of an emergency - and some districts (obviously minus the one that you teach in) do not have money to hire a full or part time SRO to be on guard. You have to work with what you've got - and I haven't seen any new articles about teachers shooting students in the past few... oh...centuries. I seriously doubt that they are going to begin now. I'm about student safety - and whether that safety comes on the hip of a police officer or state liscensed, security trained individual who also happens to carry a Texas State Educators Certificate - I want my kids safe and protected. Oh, how you would feel in your classroom, helpless to protect 40 of your own beloved students with no defense and a crazed person wielding a gun. You might then think twice when considering our rural schools.
Posted By: pmo, 2008-10-02 11:34 AM